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Pope Francis: “…there is no Catholic God, there is God …”

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Pope Francis once again shocks the world, especially the Roman Catholics, with his statements from his recent interview conducted by Eugenio Scalfari editor of La Repubblica, an Italian newspaper.

The Pope had once again made it clear that there are certain practices within the Roman Catholic Church that he seeks to change including what he calls the “Vatican-centric  view”.  This Vatican-centric view, according to him, neglects the world around us.  He does not share this view and he intends to do his best to change it. He also said that the Church should go back to being a community of God’s people, and priests, pastors and bishops who have the care of souls, are at the service of the people of God.

He said that the purpose of the mission of the Church is actually to identify the material and immaterial needs of the people and try to meet them as they can.  Agape he said is the love of each one of us for the other, from the closest to the furthest, is in fact the only way that Jesus has given us to find the way of salvation and of the Beatitudes.”

But the statement that shocked the world was, “And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator”.

The Pope had also commented regarding the interviewer’s statement that practicing Catholics and Christians are becoming a minority. Pope Francis said that being a minority is actually an advantage.

We have to be a leavening of life and love and the leavening is infinitely smaller than the mass of fruits, flowers and trees that are born out of it. I believe I have already said that our goal is not to proselytize but to listen to needs, desires and disappointments, despair, hope. We must restore hope to young people, help the old, be open to the future, spread love. Be poor among the poor. We need to include the excluded and preach peace. Vatican II, inspired by Pope Paul VI and John, decided to look to the future with a modern spirit and to be open to modern culture. The Council Fathers knew that being open to modern culture meant religious ecumenism and dialogue with non-believers. But afterwards very little was done in that direction. I have the humility and ambition to want to do something”

Ever since he was inaugurated into Papacy last March 19, 2013, Pope Francis had proven that he has different views with regards to sensitive issues such us atheism and homosexuality.  His more liberal and lenient takes on these subject matters were evident in his previously conducted interviews.

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  • Word Up

    Truly a pope that really loves the Lord! God bless

    • lita_angelita

      JESUS CHRIST is the only way to salvation,not of your goodworks,not of religion.Only him nailed on the cross…

      • Word Up

        I agree Lita. Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to our salvation….there is no under name give under heaven by which we will be saved.
        What I am saying Lita is, do you even wonder if the pope is seeing what SAUL (the Apostle Paul) had seen on the road to Damascus?
        I pray that the Pope will truly see what a true God fearing bible believing Christian does. May God continually open the Pope’s eye even more.

        • ??

          I believed that Jesus is the way of salvation but saying not of good works or religion is indeed a misinterpretation of what Jesus taught us…If you are a true believer of Jesus, you do good things, and good works ,everything is good. but unfortunately, we believed in Jesus but why is that until this time many are just bystanders of this faith? just faith is useless when you do not practice it…how can you show that you love God, you love Jesus, buy just eating everyday, working everyday, and shopping in malls, etc? as what I understood in Jesus teaching even I am not truly attuned in the bible, “what shall you bound on earth shall be bound in heaven…if you do good things, then you will reap it. if you bad things, the same consequences you will received…We don’t have to blind and close minded to old beliefs that we had….we have to be awakened to what Jesus want to teach us…because if only faith can save us, without action, it seems that it’s ok to do evil things because anyway Jesus will save me…i have faith in Him…

          • Word Up

            ………..it is written in Ephesians 2:8-9
            “For by GRACE you have been saved through your FAITH, and that not of yourselves, It is the GIFT OF GOD.
            Not of works, lest anyone should boast”.
            ………. We do our good deeds to give glory to our God – it is THE RESULT of a personal relationship with the Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ, not because we are attempting to gain heaven in our own way. If we depend on your good works then we have disregarded Jesus death and resurrection for the atonement of our sins.

            I don’t discount doing good deeds (I actually commend those who do great things out of the abundance of thy heart and they are doing it not to become popular) my friend but what I am saying is, doing good thing is the end result of our love for the one who first loved us.

          • ??

            As Sister Lita Said, salvation is not by religion…practically speaking, without religion, people will not be able to know who is Jesus Christ..so how come by not religion we will not be saved?…which is the basic thing to acknowledge…..isn’t it? and not by good works means disregarding the word Good works….better say not just by good works….this would mean more believable…because I don’t think that by just faith in Jesus we will be saved…

          • Word Up

            Religion is not what Jesus is interested….He is more interested in a more personal relationship with everyone who believes that He is the Lord and Saviour of their life.
            This is how I look at my salvation. Grace – Faith – Salvation – Good works.

      • Francis.M

        Hi! Again, please dig deep of the what is meant by good works…

      • lee

        Jesus indeed perform good works right??

    • ??

      wow, the words of Pope are really powerful that can affect the whole world. especially the Pope’s statements recently. And I definitely agree to what the Pope said. My religion is Roman Catholic but i am a Peace Advocate so I joined Unification Church which promote Universal Peace especially peace among Religions. In Unification viewpoint, God is a Universal God who exists in all religions. Only that He has different names in accordance to the religion itself, will it Buddha, Allah, Confucius, Christ, etc…If we are a True religion is a religion which teaches good and not evilness. So among all religions, is there any religion that teaches evilness? I believe..there is none. if you study WORLDS Religions, you will definitely realize that God is the Parent of All humankind…as in ALL HUMANKIND…regardless of their religions and even for those who have no religions…..

  • Peace in the Moroland

    Our religious affiliations divides. We are all one in God’s sights equally created in this world and being workout for eternity.

  • Ricky Bobby

    Vatican trying to shake things up in hopes of retaining their mindless lemmings from leaving them. The churches (all religion) are losing followers and for good reason too. Information today is more accessible than ever and people are realizing that religion is man made and is nothing but a joke to leech money off people.

    The catholic church is the riches organization in the world. They have more cash on hand than any other corporation in the world and it grows by the week! You gotta ask yourself, where is all the money going to?

    With the money they have, they could have already eradicated world hunger 10 times over, but no, they choose to buy golden cups and thrones for child molesters to drink and sit on. So much for humanitarian causes. WAKE UP!

    • harued

      The Catholic church is also one of the biggest charitable organizations. So partof the money they collect goes there. However, you should know that they are not merely a social institution to feed the hungry nor are they a scapegoat to blame for every untoward event. Charity is one of the things they do, not their sole purpose. We have the government and other organizations like UN, etc. if you want to tackle eradication of poverty and hunger.

    • cheripi

      you do not serve your purpose because you annoy me…

  • Javellana Sherlyn

    i agree with the pope. there is only one God for all of us regardless of race and religion.

    • Ricky Bobby

      Most would probably disagree.

      If you truly believe that, then that means you wouldn’t mind switching to Islam right? After all, it’ll be the same god you’ll be worshiping.

      • cheripi

        and so ill say! you will be the one to judge the people on the judgement day,..You cannot measure GOD’s judgement…even the criminals, God could save in His mercy and love…Stop being an all knowing believer…instead of creating division within the people of God, encourage people to have faith and stop discussing about people’s faith.All of us wants to go to heaven…believe in what you believe in let others believe in what they know as their truth..no one has agreed when it comes to faith…never in the history of humanity but arguments about religion has brought hundreds of wars…try to contemplate on this irony

    • Cecile

      True there is only one God ,one Catholic God or one universal God w/c invites us all to His eternal kingdom so for our beloved Pope to say there is no Catholic God is very disturbing …

      • parisian beauty [email protected]

        The bible is the sole authority when it comes to faith,,,,,,,,you cannot found the phrases such as “one cetholic God and Universal God in the bible.that’s only the product of your own interpretation.catholic doctrines oppose the teachings of CHRIST,Those are inventions of your leaders you cannot even find the word “catholic”in the bible,.you have your own dogmas

        • Cecile

          The word “catholic” means universal,for all, for everyone so when I say Catholic God it means the universality of God that God is for everyone irregardless of religion,race or color.When I say a Catholic God I don’t mean He is a God for Catholics only but a God for everyone including you and me.

          • Cecile

            I mean He is not a God for Catholics only but a God for everyone including you and me.

          • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

            so when u say Roman Catholic.. it means universal for Romans yeah? or u will still claim its for all? In fact sis its a religion as approved by government/church ruled by romans… eg. in Philippines

        • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

          i am sorry sis but i have found out that the bible isn’t the only authority when it comes to faith… in fact it has became a questionable authority because of its changes and maniplated contents..

  • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

    God’s preferences never changes. pls be careful of man-made doctrines.

    • harued

      Define preferences?

      The Pope might be misunderstood again. He meant God is a singular being not owned by anyone or any group. It’s not exactly a man-made idea.

      • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

        “Pope” is the man made idea=) I don’t disagree with what he said though. There’s only one God. Ameen. Preferences (God’s orders/ the things he likes and doesnt.)- eg. the fact that He want’s to be worshiped alone… without intermediaries. We are all going to be judged individually. not even Saints can save anyone.

        • harued

          Of course saints do not save — they are role models, that’s why they are venerated. You save yourself through the grace of God.

          • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

            the role models aren’t and shouldnt be these saints… “saint” is a man made doctrine… its not in the bible… nor in any religions text… God send “models” for us in the person of the Prophets.. Abraham, Noah, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus, Muhammed (pbut) etc.

          • harued

            That “man made” doctrine you say of came from the pope, who by the way, is given authority by Jesus to allow and forbid things (Matthew 16:17-20).

            I am not quite sure if you will understand the reference I gave, but since you were once Catholic, I expect you to know at least that citation I gave. Muhammed’s life and success is due to God’s promise to Abraham that his descendants will be as numerous as the stars — despite not being from Abraham’s wife. Ishmael (Muhammed’s ancestor) and his mother were not forgotten by God, but it was Isaac who was favored being from the legitimate wife who was believed to be barren, making Isaac, a miracle.

          • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

            pls google bart erham

          • harued

            Why? can you not just discuss his work?

      • Ricky Bobby

        Actually, I beg to differ. God is man-made.

        • harued

          Then try to ponder on these 5 ways to prove God’s existence:

          The First Way: Argument from Motion: Our senses prove that some things are in motion. Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion. Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another). Therefore nothing can move itself. Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else. The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

          The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes: We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world. Nothing exists prior to itself. Therefore nothing is the efficient cause of itself. If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results. Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists. The series of efficient causes cannot extend ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

          The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument): We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., contingent beings. Assume that every being is a contingent being. For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist. Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist. Therefore there could have been a time when no things existed. Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence. Therefore, nothing would be in existence now. We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every being is a contingent being. Therefore not every being is a contingent being. Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as God.

          The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being: There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others. Predications of degree require reference to the “uttermost” case (e.g., a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest). The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus. Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

          The Fifth Way: Argument from Design We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance. Most natural things lack knowledge. But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligent. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

          • Ricky Bobby

            I completely understand where you’re coming from as those arguments are ALMOST convincing.

            The problem I have with them is they assume that there is a god. Just because one cannot be explained by science it does not equate to a god. There are a many things that man did not understand which they have equated to an existence of god. Like fire, the sun, the moon, stars.. etc. Men believed those were gods as they could not explain what they are.

            I cannot prove that god does not exist as you cannot prove to me that he does. But the everyday evidence we live in leans toward he does not.

            One that always sticks to mind is “God is good all the time.” How can a good god allow little girls to get raped and murdered?

            You also need to think why you believe in your god. I’m guessing you were indoctrinated as a young child. In other words, you were never given a choice. You’ve been brainwashed.

            You also need to do some research where the bible is really from and how many times it’s been translated. We all know that translation of one language to another is never the same. The bible was translated from Hebrew to Aramean to Greek then went through some more rewrite by Constantine the Great (which is by the way a war lord and worshiped many pagan gods other than the christian god) now factor in the agendas and motives of the translators and translate that into your language of choice and that’s your modern day bible! IF the bible IS indeed the word of god, then it’s certainly not verbatim.

            You can be a good person without god. I’m an atheist, but have probably helped more people than your average christian.

            Question everything.

          • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

            Prob with some people is that they want to know everything… without realizing that only God knows everything… and we can never be with His level. And when they don’t find out readily what they are looking for they start to quit on it. I say your quest isn’t over yet.. Question everything.

          • Ricky Bobby

            Hi Imaan,

            It’s funny you say that, because that’s exactly why I’m in this disposition because I DID question everything, even religion.

            So I should be the one saying this to you:

            “Prob with some people is that they DON’T want to question anything. They will just believe what their parents and society taught them as a child.”

            I don’t buy that “never be with his level”.. this is the classic theist escape goat when they have no argument.

            Maybe you should question everything rather than believing what you’ve been taught by society.

            I have no problems with theists, except for everything that is in this video on Youtube. (search “The Story of Suzie”)

          • Imaan bint Fidel Galleno

            hello…. ohh.. i was a catholic too=) and my story is enough… i am a suzie myself too.. lol whoever she is.. and the classic Atheist escape goat? ” I don’t know, therefore God doesn’t exist.” “I think.. therefore,,, i know better.” =P Have you tried looking into Islam? I suggest you do. I know some atheists who became theists again when they encountered Islam…. since you are a seeker im sure u wont mind..

          • Ricky Bobby

            I have really good friends who are muslims. That’s about as close as I’ll ever get to Islam or to any organized religion for that matter.

            If I’ll ever believe in a god, it’ll be on my own terms. Probably just right before I die. That way I can still be saved in the last minute. 😀

            Thanks for the offer though, I’m sure you mean well. Cheers!

          • harued

            Dude, either you are for or against. In the last minute you say, if you actually mean what you said, you won’t necessarily be saved by saying “I am Christian” seconds from death. The path to salvation at that crucial moment may have 2 components: true repentance and acceptance of God despite not knowing He exists (like the thief who died beside Jesus who actually converted despite seeing Jesus’ miserable state — which is hard). If I was in that thief’s position, I wouldn’t actually believe that the son of God can easily be nailed to the cross.

          • Ricky Bobby

            Obviously, that was meant to be a joke.

            But for argument’s sake, what if I was actually true to my repentance and accepted god as my savior before I die? If god is the all good and forgiving as everybody claims he is, then I bet my last peso that I’ll be saved. You can’t deny that, because as the saying goes.. it is he who can only judge.

          • harued

            Islam and Christianity came from the same source. it’s just that their teachings are intrinsically different, and I find the ways of Christianity more understanding and ideally not concerned with condemnation.

          • harued

            Unlike you, I questioned and questioned, but I got enlightened as I actually exhausted every effort to understand THAT I CANNOT understand everything and that I actually agree that the world will be a better place if people actually followed what Jesus taught.

            I was at the verge of atheism, so I understand where you’re coming from and what you might have failed to see in Christianity.

          • Ricky Bobby

            Yeah, that’s the problem.. Just because YOU can’t explain it, it doesn’t mean there is a god. That’s just you giving up.

            I can’t force myself to believe in a god when every bone in my body doesn’t believe it. The world we live in doesn’t show there is a god or any supernatural/paranormal. All “proof” are that were ever presented were debunked. In all honesty, I actually wished there was a god cause it would explain a lot of things in this world.

            The difference between you and I is, I wait till there is undeniable proof before believing. If that day doesn’t come, I will die godless. It’s not my fault that I’m a logical person. However, I will know I lived my life true to myself.

          • harued

            I already gave you some ways to somehow grasp God’s existence based on acceptable natural laws.

            I will again rebut what you are saying with: “Just because you can’t explain it ON YOUR TERMS, it doesn’t mean that a God does not exist. You gave up trying to understand.”

            Actually, I think agnosticism is more acceptable than atheism. Atheism is flat out “I don’t believe because I can’t see, touch, blah-blah” but an agnostic actually understands that a God is not necessarily finite (measurable) which may or may not exist.

            As a Catholic, we are discouraged from engaging in arguments regarding “making others believe” as that is contrary to what God wants. I COMPLETELY understand your view on indoctrination, but from what I am seeing (which is a LOT), many atheists become atheists because of their hatred towards theists and how stupid our philosophies are, not necessarily because they were born that way. It’s like many are atheists because of spite.

            You can die Godless; that is your right and your choice. It’s the one thing that a truly loving God will not control. You’re not necessarily “logical” but you can say that you are not abstract. I am a Catholic, I believe in the possibility of evolution or mass that came from energy — and it doesn’t necessarily make me godless NOR DO I WORSHIP NATURAL PROCESSES THAT ARE UNEXPLAINED (like what you think lol!). I just agree with philosophies of Jesus (HIGHLY ILLOGICAL but altruistic) as I know if people actually lived by them, the world will be better. I believe that truths are not limited to empirical evidences and I believe that the complexity of the universe along with our concept of “Good” (which you adapted despite being atheist) did not come by chance.

          • Ricky Bobby

            We’ll end this here. As always, these type of debates never end. I know you absolutely understand where I’m coming from as I you.

            Thanks for taking the time to reply. Cheers!

          • harued

            Because we can always see flaws in the other’s statement. Oh well. Humans are imperfect after all.

          • harued

            Hahaha! Those are based from science, and the very basis of a God cannot be simplified and that might be the closest you can go to it.

            However, your statement “just because one cannot be explained by science it does not equate to a god” can easily be rebutted with this statement:

            “Just because science can’t prove God’s existence does not mean He doesn’t exist” — I hope you get the point I am trying to get across here. Your statement: “everyday evidence we live in leans towards He does not” lacks substance because I can easily say to you that “Our everyday existence as sinners, is basically a miracle” and then the conversation won’t go anywhere.

            You are a typical skeptic or agnostic and the reason I laugh is because I was the same. Your question about God’s goodness is very VERY predictable, but understandable. However, since you may have not taken up bible classes, so I can enlighten you on some basic principles (IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LISTEN).

            God is good, yes, but that does not mean that our actions as God’s creatures will also be good. His love for His creations ALSO extends to the choices they make, which He very much respects. So He allows us to make ANY kind of choice (Freewill). So each time you will question bad things in the world, just remember He gave humans some commandments to live by, but He allowed them to practice having a choice.

            Your comment regarding translation, I was recently (last Saturday lol!) told by our parish priest who was also a bible scholar that there are still errors in translation to this day! However, it is not that significant to call its teachings erroneous PROVIDED that you know the context of how the word is being used. Constantine, indeed was a pagan with a Christian mother, who later converted to Christianity! Don’t forget that.

            The word of God is not necessarily concerned with translation but rather the teachings that are being upheld. You can insult it all you want, but you cannot deny that people seen as “good” do adhere to its principles.

            Have you read the 4th way I gave you earlier regarding the gradation of being?

            Your term good is highly subjective. You can be from a cannibalistic tribe who sees “good” as cutting heads of people and drinking their blood to appease their gods. In the same way, calling yourself good might be applicable to you if for example you helped a bum — others might see you as “tolerating their laziness” See what I mean?

            It all boils down to the Christian definition of “good” WHICH I AM SURE is the goodness you are referring to. The possible difference between a Christian and an atheist doing the same “good things” is the goal.

            As Christians, we are DISCOURAGED from telling what we did as it boastfulness and we are REQUIRED to do it with an open heart to the point of SACRIFICING for our neighbor. For your case, you elevated yourself and quantified what you did over what others did (it’s not a competition) which is a sign of lack of humility and may be done for personal merit like in many famous rich atheists like Bill Gates. Their goal with Christians is the same, but I can tell you that the intrinsic difference is the heart of sacrifice and self denial — virtues that are not usually found in atheists.

            You can say that you did lots of things than my average Christian, but you might have neglected to see their predicament while they helped. It’s pretty much like what Jesus said about a poor widow who gave a few cents “gave more” than a rich man who gave a lot more money.

          • Ricky Bobby

            I can’t believe you just said that atheist only do good acts to elevate themselves. How judgmental with no basis whatsoever. As a human being, I help people to help people, that’s it. Christians help people because they are told that if they are good, they will get in the gates of heaven. Christians seem to have more to gain than other humans.

            Letting people know my good deeds was never the goal here. It was mearly used for the sake of argument. I’m anonymous online, I have nothing to gain.

          • harued

            You are making hasty assumptions. Being an atheist, I expected that you would carefully read what I said. But to quote you:

            ” I’m an atheist, but have probably helped more people than your average christian.” — that is what I am describing, not atheism in general. So, stop with the overused “judgmental” labeling. It may not be your goal to boast that you helped more than the average Christian, but you technically “blew your own horn.” I hope you understand why I said that and type in carefully what you are saying.

            Again, what I told you regarding translation came from a bible scholar — they are POLYGLOTS, PHILOSOPHERS, THEOLOGISTS, HISTORIANS, AND ANTHROPOLOGISTS rolled into one. So, YES, they do know what they are talking about as they spent years studying NOT JUST HOW TO TRANSLATE, but how the culture was at the time the word was used.

            You’re a very typical skeptic. Belief is a choice, faith is a choice, and trusting is a choice. Now, if you so mock what Jesus taught like sacrifice, love, etc. — I can’t do anything about it. Contradiction is a vague term, specially when you compare different timelines in the bible where different practices were done. If you’re going to quote the old testament (stone to death, etc) and then the time when Jesus defended a prostitute (let the sinless man throw the first stone), I will simply revert you back to the time both incidences took place, who were present, etc. >>> all of which were DIFFERENT contexts, but the primary teaching in both books are INTRINSICALLY the same (Loving God and neighbor as you love yourself, etc).

  • Ketchup Mag

    Abomination starts!

    • harued

      Based on what grounds?

  • Misty

    Yes there is only one God who sent His only and beloved son Jesus Crist. That who so ever believe in Him will have eternal life. It is clearly mentioned to the bible that Jesus is the way to the kingdom of the God Father… not by Mary, not by saints, not by your good deeds, not by our righteous works… not by traditions and not by religion can save us from sins, but only the relationship with Jesus Christ. Admitting we are sinners and accept Him as a savior. Very simple and clear

    John 14:6 (KJV)
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    1 Timothy 2:5(KJV)
    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Titus 3:5-7 (KJV)
    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
    7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

    1 John 5:12-15
    12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 Thesethings have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know thatye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14 And this is theconfidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask , we know that we have the petitions that wedesired of him.

    • Cecile

      Actually the roles of the saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary are helpers of our salvation but if you are not Catholic you will not understand this.

      • 123

        could you please site biblical verse supporting what you said, so that others would know the views of catholic

        • Cecile

          At the wedding feast in Cana there was no more wine for the guest to drink so the Blessed Virgen Mary told Her Son Jesus that there’s no more wine and the Blessed Virgin told the servants …”Do whatever He tells you to do.”
          In the streets of Jerusalem a paralytic man asked St Peter to heal him and St Peter told him..”Silver and gold I have none but in the name of Jesus arise and walk.”

      • Word Up

        Even the saints and the blessed Mary had called Jesus, MY LORD.
        Please read Acts 4, it may help you what the saints had confessed

        • Cecile

          Very true because the saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary truly acknowledge,truly recognize and truly believe that Jesus is truly their Lord and their God.

          • Word Up

            So you are aware that he is the ONLY LORD that is more powerful than anyone combined. Our God is a God of second chances. He gives us enough time to make the choice in our hearts. Would it be to be that Jesus is the SOLE FOCUS of our hearts & our eyes.?… or you chose to believe that saints of the olden days are the only ones who have direct access to Jesus (did you know that those who accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Lord & Saviour are the modern day saints?) and you needed their assistance for God to reach out to you?.
            As a believer, we have been given the same authority that was given to the Apostles in the old days. read the book of ACTS. You would be surprised how God is as close to us now than they are. We don’t need help from the saints or Blessed Mary because we have an advocate who is in Christ Jesus. He is the true mediator for our sins.
            Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
            “You are only as close to God as you chose to be”

          • Cecile

            You forget without the Blessed Virgen Mary there is no Jesus Christ? The Blessed Virgen is the helper of mankind for the birth of our Saviour JESUS our Lord and God ; therefore as a mother she is helping us to be closer to her Son Jesus ,

          • Word Up

            NO i do not forget that Blesed Mary is His earthly vessel. I rever her as the mother of Jesus while He is here on earth but I go directly to the one who said “You shall have NO other gods before me”.
            God could use ANY other willing woman during those particular time hence she acknowledged that she had been favored but not to the the same level of Jesus Christ. The truth of the matter is, you are focusing on other things rather than the one who sacrificed for our sins. It is the power & the forgiveness of my sin thru Jesus Christ that is vital in my Christian life.
            Cecille, the topic of this all about God – please stick to the subject.

    • parisian beauty [email protected]

      It needs good works to be saved not by faith alone,faith without action is dead,according to the bible.I pity you,your pastor has misled you,

      • Word Up

        Parisian Beauty 46…it is written in Ephesians 2:8-9
        “For by GRACE you have been saved through your FAITH, and that not of yourselves, It is the GIFT OF GOD.
        Not of works, lest anyone should boast”.
        ………. We do our good deeds to give glory to our God – it is the result of a personal relationship with the Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ, not because we are attempting to gain heaven in our own way. If we depend on your good works then we have disregarded Jesus death and resurrection for the atonement of our sins.

    • Myr

      For Jesus Christ is the only one who can give us the righteousness that we need in order for us to be acceptable in heaven.

    • Roshan

      i think you need to understand symbolism in bible. Bible is written symbolically with allegories and metaphors but you must have understood it literally.

  • Pinkee Romero Quinzon

    an enlightened pope, he is. may the good Lord guide you to the right path.

  • patrickinca

    At last, a statement that will wake up a lot of them catholic bigots thinking that being catholic is the only way to heaven.

    • Ricky Bobby

      Interesting how one man can say a few words and change an entire religion’s long time belief in an instance.

      I wonder if Catholics will actually change their views.

      • jerremie f. reponte

        catholism is not constant!! it changes!! thats what i like about it!

        • Ricky Bobby

          That begs the question, how much of it is still “authentic”? How much of it is still the actual teachings of god?

          Like you and I, the pope is just a man, his decisions are not infallible. I’m curious how you feel about that. Does it bother you that you’re only really following a man and his man-made doctrines?

  • Cecile

    W/ regards to our beloved Pope Francis statement ..”there is no Catholic God” I find it disturbing because Catholic means universal therefore a Catholic God is a universal God w/c means a God for everyone .He is a Catholic God who founded a Catholic religion or a universal religion…a religion w/c has the fullness of God’s revelation of truth and a religion that invites everybody in order to participate and share in this truth He revealed to this universal church. So to deny God as a Catholic God is also to deny God as a universal God.

    • lee

      Cecile don’t take it literally. The pope means that God Is not only Exclusive for the Catholics but to all on his statement “there is no Catholic God”

      • Cecile

        Then the Pope should have expound it further like the way you explained it because w/ the statement “there is no Catholic God” is misleading and confusing one, and not eveyone can extract from what he meant,just like how Jesus explained His parable.

    • patrickinca

      So you mean that God is not the God of islam, the jews, protestants, orthodox so for and so on? When you say universal that means it is for everybody. As far as I know, we are all children of God, Catholic or not. Even Jesus prefers sitting down and having meals with pagans and sinners because this are all his children. “He is a Catholic God who founded a Catholic religion”. no he didnt, and Emperor Constantine is the one who founded the the Catholic Church. Get your facts straight.

    • parisian beauty [email protected]

      The tru religion founded by God himself is not roman catholicism,it is the CHURCH OF GOD…..pls read ur bible

      • Cecile

        Right, the Holy Catholic Church is a universal CHURCH OF GOD founded by God himself.

  • xar

    wow. definitely agree with him . bless him!

  • parisian beauty [email protected]

    I don’t think that all religions belive in one GOD.If it is so why are there so many teachings that are not written in the bible,purely man-made doctrines,those teachings are not from God,each religion follows their own belief.Because if everyone worship the tru God of the bible then there must be one religion for all….which is the CHURCH OF GOD,founded by GOD Himself…..please open your bible and read and you will find the answer to all your questions and doubts….

    • harued

      Well, there was only one Christian community back then until protestants defected. While we know that the church back then had corruptions, let us not forget that the reigning pope that time was permitted by God to reign — why? because God does not exclude sinners even from overseeing the church.

      Take Jesus’ lineage for example. One of his ancestors, Rahab, was a prostitute, King David was an adulterer, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines (many are pagan), etc. Martin Luther had a reason to be angry at the church, but leaving it because of imperfections of people is..well, bad.

  • ej

    Watch… Listen… or Ask Bro. Eliseo Soriano…his answers straight from the Bible… no more, no less… Ang Dating Daan or The Old Path.

    • tangamo noh

      Si Elisiang bading ba na wanted? at ngtatago sa Brazil dahil sa kasong rape! lol

  • RVB

    I JOHN 4:1
    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    MATTHEW 24:24
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    MATTHEW 24:5
    For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    MATTHEW 24:11
    And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    THE ACTS 20:28
    Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed THE CHURCH OF GOD, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
    EPHESIANS 5:25
    Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

    • harued

      “Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” — Matthew 16: 17-19

      Pope Francis is Peter’s successor whether we like it or not. He has the infallibility to create dogma and to give teachings with matters concerning the faith.

  • RVB

    KING JAMES VERSION

    MATTHEW 7:21-23

    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    • harued

      Matthew 16: 17-19 — Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

      >>> Pope Francis is Peter’s successor.

  • yaniie kat

    i like this guy. i think he’s trying to strike a balance between being spiritual and being human. a believer of God without acting like non-believers are lesser beings and trying to reach out to them as an equal and not like charity cases of faith (or something.)

  • harued

    Like I said, it is one of the things they do, but not their sole purpose. They are not there to prevent deaths nor are they there to eradicate polio, poverty or each and every bad thing in the world — you have the government institutions or philanthropists for those.

    What you are asking for is a purely social institution. The Catholic Church donated to people affected by calamities, they also built hospitals of charity, orphanages, etc.

    But you have to remember that the money they collect is not for a business; it is needed in their projects, building of other Churches in various places, sustenance of priests (retired or active), and the list goes on.

    It is quite hypocritical of you to point out ONLY WHAT they didn’t do and not actually what they did to help, which again I must reiterate, is not their sole purpose.

  • harued

    What do you mean “point the fingers so fast at others?” — for what? and how was I pointing fingers when I am not accusing. You’re the one accusing them and pointing fingers over the things that they haven’t done while grossly neglecting the help they have given for centuries.

    As far as I am concerned, you’re being angry because they did not fulfill your Utopian ideologies of eradicating bad things in the world which is totally uncalled for nor is it possible.

    Like I said, they ALREADY help other people, what more do you want? They built hospitals, orphanages, relief centers for calamity victims AND WE ARE TALKING IN A GLOBAL SCALE here.

    You have to understand that the money they collect is not constant as there are poor parishes also, but they still give..unlike Bill Gates who has a constant income of millions, Your ideas of wiping out sickness or helping mankind is well and good, but an institution like the Catholic church can only do so much as they are literally just begging the parishioners — it’s not very profitable when at the end of the day you can choose to give 25 cents or nothing at all as you are not forced to donate money.

    Before making those statements let alone using the doctrine WITHOUT thinking of the individual state of every Catholic church in the world, think about the fact that they are not a business and the money they get from asking for donations gets thinned by the things that they do (schools, hospitals, orphanages, relief centers, housing projects, etc. etc. etc.)

    • Ricky Bobby

      “You have to understand that the money they collect is not constant as there are poor parishes also, but they still give..unlike Bill Gates who has a constant income of millions. ”

      The Catholic church is by far the richest organization in the world. They are much MUCH richer than Bill Gates. They probably make more money than Bill Gates with their weekly masses around the world. Don’t you know that the money donated to ALL Catholic churches (rich or poor) trickle up to the Vatican? Yes, just like the mafia and its capos. Money gets pushed up to one central piggy bank. Don’t just take my word for it, ask your priest. Google is also your friend.

      Oh and those schools and hospitals you claim the church made for the people? Well, they are all PRIVATE and yes they charge people (the same people who donated the money) to use them. Name one Catholic school or hospital that’s free. So thanks (but no thanks) for their help!

      The only free schools and hospitals are the ones provided by the government.

  • cheripi

    Blessed are the poor for they will enter the Kingdom of God. Are you an atheist?you are happy because of those atheist?Your role now is to encourage bill Gates to believe in what you believe in so that you will serve your purpose and do not judge and annoy people who has their own connection with God through their faith which is different from yours.You religion says its not the works that you will be saved but your faith?common why are you saying words which should not be even be uttered buy a Godly person like you? are you really serving GOD for saying things like this?or you just want to create conflicts like what the devil wants you to do?

    • Ricky Bobby

      Good morning Cheripi.

      Atheist? Sorry, I don’t like to be labeled. We shouldn’t label people but with their names. But if you ask me if I believe in a god, then I would have to say no. I don’t believe in the devil either in case you are wondering. I believe in helping people who are in need.

      I’m glad that there are people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet who are selfless and have dedicated their lives to help mankind more than the so called religious people (christians and of other faiths).

      It’s funny how you’re quick to judge that the “devil” wants me to do this. I bet you think your “god” brought you online, lead you to this page to read my post and reply right? And now by defending his name, you feel you are doing him service, hence you think you are one step closer to heaven. That’s how christians think. So predictable.

      What about actually, walking outside, asking a random homeless person to sleep in your house for a night? You wouldn’t do that. But isn’t that what Jesus would do?

      This is a PUBLIC forum which means anybody can voice out their opinions. If you’re annoyed, then you’re in the wrong place.

  • Ricky Bobby

    Oh wow, a religious site with accuracy stats on the bible. It’s a bias site at best. Not really a credible source. Thanks for trying though.

    • Word Up

      Actually I was just responding to your “biased” comments. Obviously you keep on questioning without really searching. you might be searching but not really finding the truth coz your eyes are blind. Sometimes, believing is seeing.
      God doesn’t hate FAGS….He hates the sin that this world had been corrupted with. Let me put it in layman’s term. He doesn’t hate the player – HE HATES the game.
      clearer?