Former president Erap: “M.I.L.F. can’t be trusted, all-out war still best solution”


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MANILA, Philippines—For former president and now Manila Mayor Joseph “Erap” Estrada, an all-out war against the Muslim rebels is the only way true peace can finally be achieved in Mindanao.

In an interview with media, Estrada said the ongoing peace agreement with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) would ultimately fail because the rebels cannot be trusted to keep their word.

Photo Credit: Minda News
Photo Credit: Minda News

He pointed to the killing of more than 40 members of the Philippine National Police Special Action Force last Sunday by a combined group of MILF and its splinter group,the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF), last Sunday as proof that the rebel group is not committed to forging peace in Mindanao.

The SAF members were on a mission to serve warrants of arrest against wanted militants Zulkifli bin Hir alias Marwan and Basit Usman who were believed to be hiding in Mamapasano, Maguindanao.

Both the government and MILF have labelled it a “misencounter,” sparking public uproar for it to be called a “massacre” instead.

Estrada said the group cannot continue to call it an isolated incident which won’t affect the ongoing peace negotiations.

“Many lives were sacrificed pointlessly; of course, it will set back the peace talks,” he said.

Recalling his declaration of all-out war against the MILF back in 2000 when he was still president, Estrada said his decision was based on the untrustworthiness of the rebel group.

“We engaged the MILF several times with ceasefires and peace talks. Yet behind our backs they still continued to cause mayhem in Mindanao. They have been doing that for decades,” he said.

“The government has sincerely offered the rebel group genuine peace several times, it’s unfortunate they have not reciprocated our sincerity,” he added.

Nevertheless, he also asked the public to pray that the Aquino government would finally achieve real peace with the rebels.

This article has gone viral and has been viewed 37045 times so far. Article originally posted: January 27, 2015, 10:29 pm (UTC-0). Last update: February 1, 2015 at 5:54 am (UTC-0).

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  • lol

    Erap nga naman, ganyan sya kabilis mgdesisyon kasi walang alam yan c Erap. ewan ko kung bkit may bumoboto pa jan. All-out war agad-agad..! Kaya ka nakukulong eh hindi kasi nagiisip. Magcasino kna lang ulet or dalawin mo c Junggoy sa jail. Hindi pa rin ako makapaniwala na naging presidente c erap. Sana man lang sa mga bumoboto piliin nyo yung may pinagaralan kahit konti at sana physically fit hindi yung uugud-ugod na tulad ni Erap. Kung magisip c Erap parang pelikula lang na kapag my kalaban susugod agad hindi nagiisip kaya nga sya lang yung nagiisang presidente na nakulong kasi bopols at ngpakulong sya. Si GMA khit ang daming kaso ndi nakulong kasi mautak at marunong magimbento ng sakit. SI P-noy lang ang para sakin mahusay at marunong mgdesisyon sana si P-noy na lang ulet sa 2016.

    • Joe

      malamang MILF ka

      • Joe

        karamihan naman gusto all-out-war eh

        • lol

          bopols ka rin pla Joe kasing bobo mo c Erap, trahedya na nga nangyari sa 40 na SAF tapos trahedya pa rin gusto mo. kahit mga MILF sila may mga pamilya din sila at tao din sila. Walang mangyayari kung All-out war kylangan planuhin mabuti kung papano cla huhulihin at mapanagot sa batas. Dapat ikaw ang dinadala don pra mkipag-all-out war. lols…

          • Ilych Narmonov

            trahedya ba yun O sadya? mag isip kaibigan. darating ang panahon hindi lang ang Mindanao ang ggustuhin nila…

          • lol

            Sadya or hindi Sadya trahedya pa rin yon.. kaibigan ikaw ang magisip isip.. Kaya tayo may mga kasundaluhan dun sa Area pra pigilan ang mga rebel group na yan.. Kahit hindi lang Mindanao gustuhin nila eh pabayaan mo lang gustuhin nila pero hindi nman nila makukuha.. lols.. gusto lang pla nila eh… looooools.. Ang problema kung All-out war maraming sibilyan na madadamay at sana hindi ka ksama don..

          • Ilych Narmonov

            Ikaw na ang madaming alam!
            Ang tanong ko lang. “Sa ngayon ba walang nadadamay na sibilyan dito sa Mindanao?”
            ang suliranin sa Mindanao ay hindi maayos hanggat hindi sila tumutupad sa napag uusapan. Ang Alam ko Pilipinas ang Mindanao at dapat ay sumusunod sila sa Konstitusyon at batas ng Pilipinas.

          • lol

            chill lang… lol.. sigurado meron nadadamay na sibilyan jan sa Mindanao pero ang sa akin lang kung gusto nyo kagad eh All out war eh mas marami pa ang madadamay na sibilyan. Kya dapat mgplano at pagaralan mabuti kung papano cla huhulihin ng walang madadamay at walang gyera pra managot sa ating batas. Tama ka hindi maayos ang suliranin sa Mindanao kung hindi cla tumutupad sa usapan eh sa tingin mo ba maaayos yan kapag all out war ang binigay mo sa kanila? kapag sila naman ang namatayan ng kakampi cla naman ang susugod at maghihiganti kaya walang katapusan ang mangyayari. Gets mo? OO alam ko dapat cla sumunod sa batas ng pilipinas eh pano nga? matagal ng issue yan.. lol… panahon pa ng mga lolo mo hindi na cla sumusunod sa batas eh ngyon mo pa cla mapasunod..

          • Ilych Narmonov

            hahaha may “gets mo” ka pa jan na nalalaman.
            Ilang taon ka na ba utoy?

            Cge at ako ay masarap ang upo at nag ppa hangin sa labas.

            FYI: I’m not supporting for ALL OUT WAR! But giving them a portion of what they want? Surely they will ask for more beyond what is written on that BBL.
            Besides Government should not negotiate to this rebels!

            Opinyon lang naman:

            Sana di masayang ang buhay ng mga pulis na yun?
            O Dumami pa ang matulad sa kanila..

          • lol

            lolo ako po ay 12 yrs old lang..
            masarap magkape habang nagpapahangin sa labas, taga saan po ba kayo sa atin?

            FYI: What portion did you gave to them? and let them ask for more beyond that Law, so what? As long as it does not harm us and it is justifiable.

            Government do negotiate with this rebels only for peace like what we all wanted.

            Opinyon lang din po:

            Tama po, sana po wala ng magbuwis ng buhay katulad ng mga pulis na yun, mga bayani sila.

          • Kittie

            Bata, mali ang grammar mo. Mali ang grammar sa FYI sentence mo. And your FYI is not really appropriate for an FYI (If you’re bright enough to know what I mean). Pero dahil di ako kasing cheap mo pagdating sa pananalita, di kita sasabihan ng BOBO!

          • lol

            lupet mo chong… talino mo kittie naiintindihan mo ba sinasabi mo? Sentence at grammar lang ang problema mo? hoy bobong kittie ang kitid ng utak mo pra dito ka pa mgpaliwanag, hindi yan ang topic dito bobo! buhay ng tao pinaguusapan dito gago.!

          • EWAN KO BA???

            May nag-iisang bobong nagkokomento.. wag nio na patulan pa..

          • toinks

            eto may humabol pa.. hahaha.. puro kyo mga bobo… yan napapala ng mga mahilig mgcomment at makisawsaw! ang susunod na mgcocomment dito sobrang bobo na talaga.. Bobohhhh!

          • hun

            kantutin ko na lng nanay mo para mdagdagan pa kc npakagaling mo mag comment hahahahahahahaha

          • toinks

            eto na yung pinakaboboh! haha.. gago kantutin mo ilong mo.. wala kna lang masabi bobo ka.. !

          • Acgr

            Huwag nyo nang patulan itong si lol o toinks, matatalo kayo. isipin ninyo ang sinabi ni Mark Twain
            “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” experienciadong stupid itong taong ito. low level.

          • toinks

            yes. experiensado ako sa mga bobong katulad mo.. kasi ang dami nyong mga bobo.. sana lang yung mga bobong katulad mo ang napatay at hindi ang saf. ang problema ni pinoy eh kung pano uubusin ang mga bobong katulad mo pra umasenso pinas. pmunta kna sa mindanao at isama mo mga ksamahan mong bobo pra naman maubos ung lahi nyo. Bobohhhh

          • espino

            mga kabayan pakiusap na po sa inyong lahat tigilan nyo na po magcomment dito, tama c toinks kya kayo nsasabihan ng masamang salita kasi ang titigas ulo nyo comment pa rin kyo ng comment, nabasa ko lahat ng comments nya at sa tingin ko ngrereply lang sya kapag meron lang ngcocomment. ngyon po kung kyo pa ay hindi na mgcocomment wala na po masasabihan sa inyo ng masama. SA tingin ko ay ang hangad lang niya ay tumigil tyo pra tumigil din siya. ok po ba ? sana po matapos na ito dito. salamat po.

          • Kittie

            Kung INGLES mo ngang baluktot eh na filter ko, yung post mo pa kaya. Di ko na pinatulan ang post mong walang kwenta, at mas kapupulutan pa ng aral ng mga nagbabasa neto ang malaman kung anong maling grammar sa hinde.

          • alberto

            alam mo pareng lol, napakatagal ng panahon yang peace talk na yan subalit ganyan pa din ang mga rebeldeng yan. kunwari peace talk pero malingat lng ang pamahalaan, titra na naman sila. alam kase nilang hindi sila pwdeng tugisin ng militar hangga’t may peace talk.
            Sa tono ba naman ng mga sinasabi mo e parang ikaw ang lover ni pnoy… o kung hindi man e isa kang myembro ng mga rebeldeng yun ha…
            utoy, sana ay wala myembro ng pamilya mo ang sundalo o pulis na matulad sa mga nasawing saf… kung magkaganon man e baka ikaw ang unang-una humiling at sumporta sa all-out war.
            alam mo utoy, nung magdeklara ng all-out war si erap, totoong tumahimik ang mindanao. nawala sa sirkulasyon ang mga rebelde kase natakot sila. ano ba naman ang magagawa ng 1-10,000 bilang ng rebelde sa pwersa ng 1,000,000 militar, pulis at ibang alagad ng batas?
            kaya ngayon bumabalik sila kse may peace talk. at yun ang kanilang ginagawang sandigan para hindi sila ubusin ng pamahalaan.
            kapag hindi mo pa naintindihan yan ay ewan ko na kung size ng utak meron ka…

          • lol

            albertong bobo. nasan ba utak mo? nsa talampakan yata utak mo…! tagal mo na pala nakikibalita lang eh bakit hindi ka pa sumugod duon sa labanan pra maintindihan mo yung cnasabi mo.. Idol na idol mo c Erap kya walang asenso dito sa pinas kasi ang dami nyong bobo.! eh magaling pla yung c Erap mo eh bkit nakulong? sya lang ang nag-iisang presidente na nakulong sa sobrang bobo..! sumama kna sa idol mo at sumugod na kyo sa Mindanao pra mabawasan mga bobo dito..!

          • hun

            kantutin ko na lng nanay mo para mdagdagan pa kc npakagaling mo mag comment hahahaha

          • idol ko kayo

            @lol,, ,tanong lng po ako,, kung ikaw ang presidente ng pinas ano naman po ang magiging plano mo sa nga ngyari sa maguindanao,, kasi sa tingin ko napakatalino mo po

          • lol

            kung magiging presidente ako uunahin ko ubusin yung mga bobong katulad mo..! pra umasenso ang pilipinas..!

          • Xy

            Alam mo ikaw ung bobo… bat mkikipag coordinate ung mga saf sa lower units?? At isa pa kung mis encounter cguro dalawa o tatlo lng patay pero hindi eh halos sila lahat patay..di na mis encounter twag don ulol

          • toinks

            ang bobo nito oh.. cno ba ngsabi ng coordinate sa lower units.. alien kba. ano ba nahithit mo. sang planeta kba galing..

      • lol

        Hindi ako MILF pero hindi rin ako bobo katulad mo.

        • Xy

          Wala yan sa matalino o bobo gago nsa diskarte yan!! Cguro ka federasyun mo si p-noy!!! Hahaha

          • toinks

            diskartehan mo mukha mo gago… cno ka federasyon mo c erap? prehas kyong bobo..

          • Kittie

            Ikaw at si lol ay halatang iisang tao lamang, simula sa mga walang kwentang komento hanggang sa walang class at pagka-sagwa-sagwang tabas ng dila ay parehong pareho kau. Eto ang payong kapatid ko sa iyo, at sana ay tanggapin mo ng positibo. May sakit ka,…di sa katawan, kundi sa utak. makabubuti sa iyo na magpatingin sa doktor. Ang kawalang respeto naman sa tema ng pananalita mo ay malulunasan kung babalik ka sa paaralan at kukunin ang subject na GMRC. Sa kabila ng lahat, hangad ko na magkaroon ka ng magandang araw.

          • jomer

            GAGO K TOINKS BAGAY SYO ANG PANGALAN MO

          • Cled Tecson

            Hahaha…ang galing ni lol prang bobo lng lng alam na salita…hoi kumag wag kang magmarunong..alam mo ba kung bakit nag all out war c erap???kung di mo alam.opaalam ko sayo..bobo!!!! Sa panahon ni erap before ang all out war may peace talks sana na mangyayari kaso yang denepensahan mong milf…maarami pinatay kasama na mga bata…kaya nag desisyun c erap na wag nang itulog ang peace talks kasi dw di mapagkakatiwalaan ang kabaro mo..research din pag may time pra di mapahiya..taong talunan pabalik balik nlng ang aalitang bobo….

          • toinks

            eto c cled tecson saksakan ng bobo.. yung Erap mo mayor lng ng maynila ngyon tanga..! cno sya pra pakinggan ng presidente ulaga! ano ba nahit hit mo gago! mgsama kyo ni Erap prehas kyong bobo! yung mga may utak nagiisip muna bago sumugod hindi katulad mong bobo gusto na agad mgpakamatay pero ok lang kung ikaw lang din ang mamatay atleast mbabawasan ng bobo. kitid ng utak mo may paliwanag kpa tanga ka! hindi na pde mgdesisyon ung erap mong bobo mo tanga..! nakulong pa nga sa katangahan.. magresearch din pag minsan bobong cled..!

          • toinks

            cled tecson LNHS batch 2005 2006. METC . tangina ang bobo mo tecson. yung mga katulad mong bobo maaga namamatay. mukhang bakla ka pala.. cguro gusto mo lang chumupa sa mga taga milf kya gusto cla sugudin.. hanep sa picture si bakla. tindi ng kabobohan mo gago..

          • Junrex Kho

            tionks mayor ngalang ngayon pro may pagmamahal sa kapwa pinoy e yong PINOY na pres. wla. nganga<<<<<<<<<<<<<

        • Kittie

          Wow ah! Kung sabihan mong bobo ang mga nagcocomment dito eh para bang naging kaklase mo sila sa eskwela (yun eh kung nag-aral ka, di kasi halata). Sigurado kong ang reply mo dito sa comment ko eh may kasama ring bobo at pagmumura. Well wala taung magagawa kung hanggang dyan lang ang kayang abutin na utak mo. Sa pagkadami-daming comments mo dito, wala ni isa ang may kwenta.

          • lol

            tama ka bobo ka kasi comment ka ng comment dito ng walang kwenta kya ka nsasabihan ng bobo..! ngcomment ka lang pra lang mkita yung reply ko na may bobo… genius ka sa kabobohan..! Eto na yung hinihintay mo…… BOBOHHHH….! LOL..

          • Kittie

            Yan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko, kung makabobo wagas. Well oks lang, di ako masyadong pumapatol sa hampas-lups. at mga tulad mo trashtalk lang ang alam. babooossh!

        • allahpig

          Hayaan nyo na… muslim sya…
          tkot sya ky erap

          • toinks

            muslimin mo mukha mo bobohh..

          • Junrex Kho

            toinks makonsinsya kasa kung kamag-anak mo yung namatay o papa gago

    • Jun

      e d bobo ka pala tang ina mo..wag kang mag marunong wala ka namang alam..ilang presidente na ang nag daan at ilang peace talk na rin ang dumaan may peace ba sa mindanao?sa panahon lang ni erap tumahimik ang mindanao dahil inubos na ang mga putang inang yan ni erap eh..bumalik lang mga yan sa panahon na ni gloria..ano expect mo sa utak terorista,pweding kausapin ng matino at papayag sa agreement ng gobyerno?mag sama kayo ng pangulo mong abno..pareho kayong utak abno kaya p[ala idol na idol mo sya…bobo mo..manahimik ka nalang tanga mo!.

      • lol

        Eto si Jun palamunin ni Erap.. kawawa ka naman siguro isa ka sa mga taga iskwater jan na taga boto ni Erap. Tang-ina mo rin..! Dapat yung katulad mong bobo ang dinadala sa Mindanao. Alin ang Inubos ni Erap? Yung rebelde? nyeh..! ano ba nahit-hit mo gago..! Sa pelikula lang magaling yung idol mo bobo..! magbasura kna Jun baka hindi kna mabigyan ni Erap.. lol..

        • Mohammad Sulfan Tariq

          Wag naman ganyan kabayan, hindi mo kasi na iintindihan kasi hindi ka taga mindinao, at siguro tama ka na ang bilis mag desisyon ni erap dahil kasi siguro alam nya na yun din ang gusto namin sa mindanao, para man lang kahit kunti mabatid namin na may gobyerno nagmamalasakit sa pang aabuso ng mga rebelde sa mga batang mindanao, sa mga mamayan sa mindanao. Kung galit ka dahil hind nakapagtapos ng pag aaral si erap at sa iyong palagay wala syang nagawang matino ok lng yun, nirerespeto namin yun kasi yan ang paniniwala mo. Pero gusto kung malaman mo na si erap lang na sinasabi mong bobo at walang pinag aralan ang tanging presidente na nakapagbigay ng katahimikan sa mindanao sa panahon ng kanyang panunungkulan. Kaya sana kahit kunti romespeto ka naman. Pareho tayong pinoy,pareho ang hangarin na magkaroon ng tahimik at payapang pilipinas. gyera na nga sa amin nag gegyara pa kayo dito.

          • Allis Well

            tama ka jan kabayan mohammad…

          • guest2322

            at si erap lng din ang presidenteng ngkusang loob na sumuko dahil may konsyensya sya. Eh yung pinagmamalaki nyong may pinag aralan ang mga nangungurakot. kung isipin nyo dawit lng si erap sa huweteng at hindi yun kaban ng bayan. eh yung presidente nyong may pinag aralan, bilyong piso ang binulsa galing sa atin. Nakikiisa nga yung mga kapatid nating muslim para mawala na yang mga rebeldeng yan.

            Pero sa bagay, obvious naman. May pinag aralan nga bobo naman. Si erap walang pinagaralan pero tama kung makapagdesisyon.

          • Junrex Kho

            alam nman natin lahat gagastos ka ng makaki pra lang sa maliit na sweldo pra sasenador kaya wlang hindi nangungurakot na sinador tandaan nyo yan

        • allahpig

          Muslim ka kasi tkot ka kay erap… kasi binigyan ka kase ni erap ng regalo…
          lechon baboy

          • toinks

            alapig na bobo hindi ako muslim pero wag mo laitin mga muslim kasi yung mga bobong katulad mo paboritong patayin ng mga muslim.. asan na yung lechon? pkisabi nga ky erap pakiregaluhan ako msarap yan.. eh ikaw bobo anong pgkain mo? ang alam kong pgkain ng mga bobong katulad mo eh sapsap kasi walang laman kya kulang sa nutrition.. bobohhh..

        • Jun

          e d tang ina mo rin bobo mo..sinabi ko bang idol ko c erap?sarap mong iuntog sa pader para matauhan ka..atlist e erap may bayag lumaban sa mga pesting terrorista na yan…ikaw makipag negostiate sa terrorista para malaman mo kung pano saksakin patalikod BOBO..

    • Guest

      Bata, pag isipan mo muna mga sinasabi mo. Agad agad? Lahat ng presidente may political advisers po yan at bago mag issue ng order ang presidente hindi “AGAD AGAD” ito ma-approve, dadaan pa ito sa proseso at debate. Wala po siyang genie para kahit anong sabihin niya ay AGAD AGAD na mangyayari

      • toinks

        hoy bobo cno kausap mo? Cno ba ngsabi syo agad agad ang bobo mo naman. isama mo na yung genie mo at pumasok na kyo sa lata. bobo

    • Guest

      People like u deserve a clap for stupidity. Ang all out war po ay plano na simula pa sa administrasyong marcos at hanggang ngayon ay reserbang solution pa rin. Di ba nakikita ng gobyerno na ginagago lng sila ng mga rebelde ilang beses na taung ngbigay ng peace treaty but still trinaydor pa rin nila and it only shows how weak our government. If you read histories and political thoughts one thing they would say show the to whom this country belong. If you came hear to brag your president and judge the opinion of others then tell yourself “AKO ANG BOBO”. People who have bias have a close mind.

      • toinks

        yown.. may isa pang bobo dito.. guest na bobo you deserve to be the most bobo in the world. kasing bobo mo rin c Erap. Sana ikaw ang dalhin sa Mindanao at isama mo c Erap pra makipag gyera sa rebelde pra malaman mo na mahalaga ang buhay ng tao. Ang stupidong katulad mo ang dapat kinakatay ng mga rebelde. Ang gobyerno natin pinapahalagahan ang buhay ng tao kahit sila ang my kasalanan lalo na ang mga sundalo natin na susugod sa laban na bawat isa ay may naghihintay na pamilya at ngdarasal sa kanilang kaligtasan. matapang kyo kasi hindi kyo ang isasabak sa laban puro kyo dakdak kung gusto nyo ngyon pa lang sumugod na kyo don mga bobo..

      • donner dalisay

        sana si erap ang presidente para tumahimik na ang MILF……….

        • Media is bias

          Mali yan. Mas lalo pang DADAMI yan pag. di natuloy ang BBL.

  • iskumbro

    Hanggat nandyan ang malaysia sa likod ng milf and biff wala dapat peace talks, later on hindi lang mindanao kukunin nyang mga yan, nakuha na ng malaysia ang sabah, pinopondohan nila milf, mnlf and biff para sa interest ng malaysia.

  • Xy

    Hoi Lol punta ka dito sa mindanao yang Pangulo mo walang bayag…yang mga rebelde na yan mga walang isang salita at di mkakapagkatiwalaan.sana ikaw nlng ubg minasaccre gago ka.nung panahon ni Erap tahimik dto sa Mindanao.ulol.

    • toinks

      ikaw pla ang walang bayag gago eh nandyan kna pla sa Mindanao eh bkit ndi ka lumaban sa rebelde. bkit idadamay mo pa sa kabobohan mo ang mga magigiting na sundalo. sana ikaw na lang mamasacre pra mabawasan ang bobo jan.. lol.

      • jomer

        c pnoy ang walang bayag. tuta ng mga rebelde,ppresidente pa nman xa bakit xa padadala sa mga hinayupak na yan, sana cancel na ang BBL NA YAN WALANG MAGANDA NA MAIDUDULOT YAN.

  • Victor L Cadelina

    Mga kabayan isip isip naman . . . History tells itself . Ano ba ang unang grupo ng mga rebelde ? Di ba MNLF ? Nagkaroon ng Peace Talk at na-implementar . Anong nangyari tapos noon ? Lumabas ang ibang grupong rebeldeng muslim na tawag sa kanila’y MILF na karamihan naman sa kanila’y dating miembro din ng MNLF . Sa ngayon magkakaroon na naman ng PEACE TALK between MILF at ng pang-gobyerno natin at bibigyan kamo sila ng karapatang pamumunoan ang ilang probinsya sa Mindanao under BBL. Hindi pa nga aprobado ang nasabing kautosan , may sumipot na namang ibang grupo ng rebeldeng muslim na sa tawag nila’y BIFF .

    Opinion ko lang ‘to . . .

    Ang kagulohan sa Mindanao ay wala akong nakikitang katapusan . Matutuloy man ang minimithi ng kasalukoyang Presidente natin at sa karamihang Muslim na magkaroon ng Peace Agreement , BIFF na naman ang susunod na problemang kakaharapin ng susunod na Presidente. Isip isip po mga kabayan !!! Parang kabuti po yang sisipot !!! Ang tanong , “PAGKATAPOS ng BIFF” . . . “ANO NA NAMAN KAYANG IPAPANGALAN SA KASUNOD NA GRUPO NG MGA REBELDENG MUSLIM” .

    • richard saladin

      sa aking pansariling paniniwala, mas nakakarami pa rin sa mga kapatid nating Muslim ang gusto sa kapayapaan. ang malungkot nga lamang ay nadadamay sa kagagawan ng mga terorista na walang ginawa kundi maghasik ng lagim. tulad ng Abu Sayyaf at ng mga grupo (MILF & BIFF) na nagkanlong dito sa international terrorist na si Marwan at nag-massacre sa ating saf44. I for one is uncomfortable with this BBL being implemented. I am afraid that once a territory in which majority are Christians like Palawan finally belongs to the bangsamoro, it might be very hard to visit our relatives there (its like enter at your own risk going inside a Muslim compound), we could suffer consequences like what happened to a pregnant Sudanese woman who was jailed because she don’t want to convert. I remember that in the news, an Imam (Muslim Priest) declared fatwa to people like Asia Bibi, was tortured, jailed, awaiting for her death sentence, a Pakistani Christian couple who were tortured, paraded naked and burned alive by unruly barbaric mob in a factory kiln because they were falsely accused of blasphemy.

    • Media is bias

      Kabayan, Nakapag.isip na kami. Simple lang ang sagot namin sa tanong mo. Nagsulputan ang MILF dahil the government had betrayed us. They betrayed the peace talk before bet. MNLF AND the GRPH

  • Dencio

    Kung itigil na ng mga rebeldeng Muslim yang mga kalokohan nila edi sana may chansa nang umasenso Yung lugar nila. Madami takot mag invest Kasi ang gulo niyo eh. Iniisip Lang sarili. Kawawa mga sibilyan na Muslim di Lang sa kahirapan pati stereotyping isip ng karamihan kaugali din nila yang mga milf na yan!

    • Media is bias

      Hindi pero Oo. Sabihin mo muna yan sa MEDIA na itigil rin nila ang paninira nila sa amin para hindi na matakot ang mga investors. Anung kalokohan ka jan? Ang pag.kamit ng KAPAYAPAAN ba ay masasabing kalokohan?

  • Ian YpherLee Pasaforte Lapat

    KAYA NGA TINATAWAG NA REBELDE.. eh MAKIPAG PEACE KAPA?

    • Media is bias

      Ano ba ang tawag sa inyo ng mga KASTILA nuong mga panahon na hindi kayo sumusunod sa kanila? Ano ba ang tawag kay Juan Rizal?? Hnd ba rebelde?? Uo, rebelde sila sa paningin ng nila pero Bayani sila kung ituring ng bayan. Nasa tama sila.

  • Terrence Mhendz Romeo

    BAKIT BA TAKOT NA TAKOT SILA DYAN SA MGA REBELDE SA MINDANAO…. TESTINGIN NATIN UNG MGA BAGONG BILING WAR PLANES…. CG NA ONE TIME LANG…. SANA EFFECTIVE AT MANUNUMBALIK ANG KAPAYAPAAN DYAN KUNG WALA NA UNG MGA MAGUGULO DYAN….

    • MANG_JOSE

      ALAM MO KUNG BAKIT SILANG TAKOT NA TAKOT DAHIL KAPAG NAUUBOS NA SILA AT PINAPATAY SILA NAG REREKLAMO SILA SA CHR PERO KAPAG SILA ANG PUMAPATAY AY OK NA OK LANG SA CHR

  • Mark Roynell Obre

    Erap is irrelevant.

  • allahpig

    Yan na dpat all out war na… kasi pag buhay pa ang mga yan pati manila bobombahin nila pati mga mhal nyo sa buhay mamatay…

    • Media is bias

      Buhay kami noon,ngeun at bukas. Ang Manila ay nanjan pa rin. Ang mga mahal neu sa buhay ang nanjan pa rin. Tahimik kami dito sa Mindano pero sadyang ginagambala neu kami sa aming mga lugar kaya napipilitan kaming ipagtanggol ang mga sarili namin. Napaisip kaba kung sino ang nanlusob ?? at pagkatapos kapag kayo ay namatayan ay sisi ang ina.abot namin mula sa inyo. Saan ang hustisya doon? saan ang hustisya para sa amin??

      • lito

        Hi sir/ma’am, they went there kasi nanjan po si Marwan, For Marwan, the mindanao is the best place to hide, and i just heard from the news that muslims people adopted Marwan, which is unpleasant to hear, (do they know who Marwan is ?) I idolized Muslims (i am not muslims) , and i am not after the All out War , I have read your comments here, thankful to know the side of yours. and very nourishing, at one point ,if the bangsamoro and MILF want Peace , bakit they still want to fight (i know for their protections) but idk why they didn’t observe first what is the reason of the SAF for going on that place, All I heard is about the Arresting of Marwan , but not that worst encounter.

  • toinks

    heto ang isipin nyo. Sila ang mgsasakripisyo sa all out war na gusto nyo. Mahalaga ang buhay ng bawat isang sundalo at paano ang mraramdaman ng bawat pamilya nila na ngdarasal ng kanilang kaligtasan..

  • nere varona

    eto rin ang isipin mo hahayaan mo lang walang katapusang patayan ang gagawin ng mga rebeldeng yan,hanggat may mga baril ang mga yan papatay at papatay ang mga yan dahil muslim ang mga yan gusto nila kaguluhan magbasa ka kung anong nangyayyari sa mga sulok ng mundo.kung mawasak ang lahat ng milf,biff,mnlf,asg ,MAWAWALA ANG NEGOSYO NG MGA GENERALS NAKAASSIGN DYAN,MAWAWALA ANG MGA PROTECTOR NG MGA AMPATUAN,MANGUDADATU AT IBA PANG POLITIKO.SA LUGAR NA YAN

    • toinks

      sige mauna kna sa mindanao. kyo ang pla mtatapang dapat wag na kyo magaksaya ng oras at sumugod na kyo don..

      • nere varona

        wag kanang magcomment wala naman kwenta nanggugulo ka lang dito,wala kang sentemyento sa mga pilipinong nagluluksa ngayon,

        • Media is bias

          eto ba senteyentong sinasabi mo?? ITULOY ANG ALL OUT WAR PARA SA TOTALLY PEACE SA MINDANAO??? Sadyang nabuhay kang may mali sa paniniwala mo.

  • Manny Ray

    The peace agreement is merely a test whether the Muslims can act in a civilized manner in their own homeland. Many previous offers of peace did not last and this Bangsamoro thing is destined for failure because the Muslims will not rest until they have complete dominance. Another president will then come up with a new initiative and the whole process repeats itself. Estrada’s method, though gung-Ho, may yet be the best solution for a perennial problem which besets any country with a Muslim minority.

    • Media is bias

      What do u mean civilized? Remember that long time ago our dear country, Philippines was a Muslim Homeland. History shows that Before the coming of this colonizers for their evil intetntion ” The ten Criteria of Civilization ” were already met. This means that We had these because of our ancestors.

      • Manny Ray

        Too bad that the Muslims has slipped back on their civility index, if what you said is correct.

        • Media is bias

          too bad too that you misperceived what civility really is?

    • Media is bias

      That’s the problem with Majority they are not recognizing the minority. Even though that we are just a mere MINORITY in your naked eyes, for us We are minority yet Terrible. We are minority in the sense that have a big importance in our History, today and tomorrow.

  • Media is bias

    War is not the solution as what Erap did. Why war when we have the options especially in valuing lives of many innocent people. ALL OUT JUSTICE INSTEAD!!

    • toinks

      tama ka boss.. buti naman at may mga tao din nagiisip. saludo ako syo..

    • MANG_JOSE

      ALL OUT JUSTICE ANO YON?? NALIMUTAN MO NA BA ANG NANGYARI SA MGA PHILIPPINE MARINES NA PINUGUTAN NG ULO NG WALANG KA LABAN LABAN. DIBA ANG SABI EH ALL OUT JUSTICE SO SAAN ANG HUSTISYA MAY HINULI NA BA? WALA DI BA?

      • Media is bias

        Wag kang ganyan, wag kang one sided. wala pa yan sa binaboy ng mga sundalo ntin laban sa mga bata, inabusong kababaihan at mga pinatay nilang sibilyan. Read History brother.

  • Media is bias

    I would like to take this opportunity
    to speak on behalf of my Muslim brothers and sisters in Mindanao, in reaction
    to some sectors calling for an ALL-OUT WAR in MINDANAO.

    Many Muslims have unspoken words and let me re-echo them
    to you.

    Do you want the entire Muslim populace to suffer and die
    because of what happened in Mamasapano, Maguindanao?

    Are you blaming all the Muslims for an incident
    that occurred beyond our knowledge and control?

    You call Muslims in MIndanao barbaric, then what do
    you call the desire to exterminate the rest of the population–a saintly act?
    It is an IMPLIED GENOCIDE.

    Calling for an all-out war against the MILF is a
    replica of former President Estrada’s approach to Muslims struggling for
    self-identity–reclaiming what has been stolen from us since time immemorial.

    But what happened after the 2000 war launched
    against the MILF? Did it kill the struggle? Did it stop the Bangsamoro
    ideology?

    Reliable reports bared the number of Mujahideen
    fighters mushroomed after the 2000 war in Mindanao.

    Do you know the number of deaths of innocent
    Muslims and non-Muslims in the area where military attacks were made to
    exterminate the MILF during that time?

    War results to lives lost. Bullets do not choose
    which to hit. Families get displaced. Personal properties get stolen and
    children cover the most number of casualties.

    Is this what you want to happen? Why, because we
    are Muslims?

    Of course, most will say no. That you are fair with
    Muslims. You just hate the armed group that fights the government.

    But why do Muslim armed groups persist? Because our
    ancestral lands were taken away from us and our basic rights and ancestral
    identity were intentionally infringed on when in fact history showed that it
    was the Muslims that first ruled this country.

    In the 70’s, Muslims were victims of genocide and
    this started the uprising when leaders of the Muslim community decided to fight
    the government that wanted to kill them and their future generation.

    Let me make this very clear. We were the original
    occupants of the land before the arrival of the Spaniards and Americans. They
    stole our lands. We were the victims not the transgressors.

    Ask this simple question before you call us
    TERRORISTS: What paved the way for the armed struggle in Mindanao. What caused
    it? Then if you care enough to know what started all these, you will understand
    why Muslims are giving their lives to regain their identity.

    KNOW OUR HISTORY.

    Centuries of fighting their oppressors and the
    Muslims still do, therefore, it is best to ask yourselves: did it stop the
    Muslim struggle?

    I recall someone who said: “You can cut the
    legs and hands of a Muslim, but he shall still rise to fight to his last
    breath.”

    WHY? BECAUSE HE SEEKS JUSTICE which has long been denied
    of him.

    WHY?

    ? The Muslim struggle has
    principles that seeks for JUSTICE.

    ? The Muslim struggle wants to
    get back the identity stolen from us.

    ? The Muslim struggle is a
    testimony that we have the right to defend ourselves from oppression and that
    we shall not allow more injustice to our future generation.

    Despite of all the things done against our race, we
    are still here HOPING AND PRAYING FOR PEACE.

    ? The Muslims in Mindanao are
    open to talk peace with the government because it is of the same vein that they
    want to leave a legacy of just peace to their future generation.

    WE are humans too. We are not monkeys. We are not
    cockroaches that you can just exterminate.

    Before you call for an all-out war, remember that
    like you, we have families too.

    By: Princess Maleiha Bajunaid Candao

    • toinks

      Respect our Muslim brothers. All out war will not bring peace instead will harm innocent lives of both party. Just as he said what we need All out justice. Im not muslim and i just want people to think first for the safety of other people who will be affected by this act.

      • MANG_JOSE

        BAKIT TAYO NI RERSPETO BA NG MGA MUSLIM?? ILANG MGA PILIPINA ANG NI RE RAPE NG MGA AMO NILANG MUSLIM SA MIDDLE EAST… TANDAAN NYO ANG NAKA SULAT SA QURAN NA RESPONSIBILIDAD NG MUSLIM ANG PUMATAY NG HINDI NANINIWALA KAY ALLAH…. YAN BA ANG RESPETONG TINATAWAG MO??

        • Media is bias

          Napunta na tayo sa Middle East brother? Para kang rn media!against, bias at ng.gegeneralize ng mga Muslim! Cease the Stereotyping. Huwag mong damayin lahat. Talagang alam ng diyos ito. Ginagawa niyo kaming masama beyond our knowledge. Remember RESPECT is a virtue and Universal, whatever is your Faith. Kng Hindi ka marunong at Alam then I dnt think my diyos ka.

    • Dennis

      Basically Philippines are a Muslim country before the colonization of Spain.
      Manila is a kingdom of Muslim settlement 300 years ago. All Filipinos
      are Muslims before Christianity dominates the country because Spaniards
      will kill anyone who does not want to be baptist. Spaniards force
      Christianity in the Philippines, the only people that resist and fights
      for their identity are the Muslims in Mindanao.

      • Junrex Kho

        gago kang muslim ka ikaw sana yong mamatayan kung masasabi mo payan?

        • Media is bias

          Brother, 18 po ang namatay o nashahid sa panig ng MILF. Hindi pa kasama jan ang mga inosenteng sibilyan na binaril ng mga sundalo. Kaya alam namin ang feeling ng namatayan pero yun nga lang sa masakit sa amin.

      • iskumbro

        Pagan ang unang religion dito, not muslim. Check the tribes people ano ba ang mga ginagawa ng mga tribo? Muslim religion galing din sa ibang bansa na pumasok sa PHL during pre- colon.

        • Dennis

          Muslim ang unang religion because our ancestors are from our neighboring countries Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei. The aetas are the native filipinos. know your history.

        • Media is bias

          MERIAM WEBSTER DICTINARY DEFINED PAGANISM as the one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person.

    • iskumbro

      Erap called for all out war against rebelde not all muslim. And MNLF was founded and funded by Malaysia para ma pressure ang government against internal conflicts at wag nang maghabol pa sa sabah, di ba nasa balita naman ang peace talks minsan ginagawa sa Malaysia. And hindi po muslim ang unang religion dito sa PHL. Pagan po ang unang pananampalataya, mga pagano and mga ninuno narin yug Muslim religion dala din yan ng ibang bansa na pumasok satin noon.

      • Media is bias

        MERIAM WEBSTER DICTINARY DEFINED PAGANISM as the one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person

  • Dennis

    Basically Philippines are a Muslim country before the colonization of Spain.
    Manila is a kingdom of Muslim settlement 300 years ago. All Filipinos
    are Muslims before Christianity dominates the country because Spaniards
    will kill anyone who does not want to be baptist. Spaniards force
    Christianity in the Philippines, the only people that resist and fights
    for their identity are the Muslims in Mindanao. We are the same people but religion breaks us apart.

    • Ricky Castillo

      nope, The muslims were unable to reach Manila but probably if the Spaniards didn’t come probably they did too

      • Media is bias

        Remember brother, Manila was once a kingdom of Muslim. They were ruled by a certain rajah,Rajah Solaiman and other Rajahs that had left their trailed. Read History, Your past and the veins running through your body are undeniably part of it .

        • Dennis

          Media is bias: Thank you for knowing our History.

  • Dennis

    interesting.
    BY: Mohammad Sulfan Tariq

    3 days ago

    Wag naman ganyan kabayan, hindi mo kasi na iintindihan kasi hindi ka
    taga mindinao, at siguro tama ka na ang bilis mag desisyon ni erap dahil
    kasi siguro alam nya na yun din ang gusto namin sa mindanao, para man
    lang kahit kunti mabatid namin na may gobyerno nagmamalasakit sa pang
    aabuso ng mga rebelde sa mga batang mindanao, sa mga mamayan sa
    mindanao. Kung galit ka dahil hind nakapagtapos ng pag aaral si erap at
    sa iyong palagay wala syang nagawang matino ok lng yun, nirerespeto
    namin yun kasi yan ang paniniwala mo. Pero gusto kung malaman mo na si
    erap lang na sinasabi mong bobo at walang pinag aralan ang tanging
    presidente na nakapagbigay ng katahimikan sa mindanao sa panahon ng
    kanyang panunungkulan. Kaya sana kahit kunti romespeto ka naman. Pareho
    tayong pinoy,pareho ang hangarin na magkaroon ng tahimik at payapang
    pilipinas. gyera na nga sa amin nag gegyara pa kayo dito.

  • MANG_JOSE

    MATA SA MATA PANGIL SA PANGIL… PANGALAWA KUNG TALAGANG GUSTO NILA NG KAPAYAPAAN KAILANGAN NILANG SUMUNOD SA GOBYERNO AT SA BATAS HINDI YONG GAGAWA SILA NG SARILI NILANG BATAS…. GANUN LANG PO YON.. SINO BA ANG GUIDE NG MGA SAF NA MINASAKER DI BA ISANG MUSLIM NA NAG BENTA SA KANILA BAGO PA MAN SILA DUMATING ALAM NA NILA NA PADATING NA ANG MGA SAF NGAUN BAKIT HINDI NILA KINONTAK ANG AFP PARA IPAALAM… LUMALABAS NA TALAGANG GUSTO NILANG PUMATAY NG MGA CHRISTIANONG PULIS..

  • Junrex Kho

    alam nman natin na niloloko lang tau ng mga yan kailangan na talaga mabalik na pres ERAP para ma ubos na yang mga yan gago yan

    • Media is bias

      Napaisip ka rin ba minsan na hindi kaya KAMI ang niloloko ng gobyerno???????? Bakit My ganitong mga pangayayari sa tuwing my usapang pangakapayapaan ang bangsamoro at GRP. Nangyari rin ito sa peace negotiations bet. MNLF at GOBYERNO?? hmmmpp. Napapaisip rin tuloy ang Bangsamoro na anu kaya ang balak ng gobeyrno para sa amin??? Sincere ba talaga sila na ibigay ang kapayapaan.

  • Media is bias

    Bangsamoro
    as a political entity shall be a robust autonomy which redresses
    historical injustice done in the past to Moro identity, Moro self
    governance, and Moro integral development. It is an arrangement that
    recognizes that Manila cannot make the Moro into a Filipino. It never
    has, and never can. Only the Filipino Muslim can do that in autonomy and
    freedom. That is what the Bangsamoro is about.” – Fr. Joel Tabora, SJ

  • Media is bias

    The Widow, the Children of Mamasapano, and the Bangsamoro

    Posted on January 30, 2015 by Joel Tabora, S.J.

    As I prayed over the Gospel of Jesus calming the storm today
    (Mk 4:35-41), two images from yesterday’s events stood out in my
    reflections: the image of the widow, Erica Pabalinos, representing the
    widows present of all the fallen, controlling wrenching emotion enough
    to cry to the President to bring justice to their fallen loved ones.
    Then the image, many miles away, but necessarily part of the poignant
    necrological services, of the children of Mamasapano walking in the heat
    of the day for peace.

    I think if Pope Francis were here, he would have looked to the widow
    in vulnerable silence and whispered with her a prayer within for
    justice. If Pope Francis were here, he would have walked in the sun with
    the children in Mamasapano and joined his hopes with theirs for peace.
    Somehow, he may have signaled, that the cry of the widow for justice and
    the hopes of the children for peace, even in the wake of 63 Filipinos
    who perished at Mamasapano, were intimately conjoined.

    If it not be disrespectful to the grieving of the widows, I wonder if
    it is permissible for me to think that the justice she called for – in
    tearfully coming to accept that her husband is a national hero fallen –
    moves beyond the gut-wrenching demand in grief for retributive justice.
    Was she demanding, somewhat in the spirit of the law of retribution, the
    lex talionis, that for her husband and every fallen soldier, an enemy’s
    wife lose the same number of husbands among the enemy? Was she
    demanding an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, so that for every
    soldier shot at close range in the face, an enemy soldier be shot in the
    face, for every limb severed, an enemy limb be severed? Was she
    demanding that the cycle of violence be renewed with a vengeance so that
    Mindanao be returned again from a land of promise to a vale of tears?

    Or was she calling for justice for the lives of the fallen because
    the militaristic police operation had evidently been botched? The somber
    ceremony of the necrological services was eclipsing this. Was she
    calling for justice even for the person to whom she was appealing for
    justice, the Commander in Chief, who had entrusted the sensitive mission
    of heroes to the discretion of a police commander of assailed integrity
    whom the Ombudsman had suspended for suspected graft and corruption?
    Was she calling for justice because the mission of heroes was now
    associated with baser motives covetous of a foreigner’s bounty? Was she
    calling for justice because the mission that could have been successful
    failed because the proper coordination with the military had not been
    made, or the proper coordination with the nation’s partner for peace on
    the ground in Mindanao, the MILF, as had been agreed for such
    operations, had been discounted?

    I would like to think that she was also calling for a higher justice,
    the social justice, that took the deepest desires and loftiest dreams
    of her hero husband into account as he trained hard and sacrificed much
    to be able to defend our Philippine society against the aggression of a
    foreign enemy or against the Machiavellian brutality of the terrorist.
    In Mamasapano, he was missioned to address the violence of two
    terrorists, to liberate our people from their dark power, to guarantee
    our people that they can live in peace and prosper in happiness without
    the will or ideology of any terrorist being imposed on them through
    bombs, bullets and fear. He laid down his life for the courageous
    pursuit of the Philippine dream of which we daily sing: “…buhay ay
    langit sa piling mo.” It is this dream that is the stuff of Philippine
    heroes, “…ang mamatay nang dahil sa iyo.”

    It is with the strains of our national anthem in mind, that the image
    of the children of Mamasapano is so poignant. They are children, Moros
    and Filipinos too, walking for peace. They are not walking in a circle
    of violence, which in their future leads them only to be the parents of
    children of violence in unending killing and war. They are walking out
    of decades and centuries of war into the dream that we all share of
    something of heaven marking our life on earth in the Pearl of the Orient
    Seas: “…buhay ay langit sa piling mo.” It is a dream, an appeal, a
    journey for peace.

    In this light, the three hundred bayani were not sent into Mamasapano
    to kill Muslims, nor to kill the peace process, nor even to kill
    anyone. They were sent in to serve arrest warrants for terrorists, to
    serve the instruments of justice in peace. They were not sent in to
    distinguish between the BIFF and the MILF in a small town of intertwined
    families and traditions nor to make judgments on any of them. How could
    they do this? They were sent in to serve warrants of arrest on two
    persons. Indeed, in being sent against the terrorist, they were sent in
    in defense of the peace process and all of the many MILF who had under
    its leadership committed themselves to the peace process. They were sent
    in because even in the peace process our MILF partners in peace must
    also contend with forces and powers not of their liking, as all must
    contend with weeds among the wheat, where the weeding must be postponed
    to a future day of harvest (Mt. 13: 24-20). The soldiers are heroes
    because against the terrorist they were also securing the dreams of the
    children of Mamasapano.

    Under the leadership of the MILF, we must all appreciate, these are
    children of warriors who themselves are walking away from the way of
    guns and violence into the way of peace. They are our partners in peace.
    The decommissioning of arms accord in Malaysia yesterday between the
    MILF and the Philippine Government brings this partnership a step
    further. It is an agreement that goes deeply counter to local culture of
    power and personal recognition in the possession of arms, but it is an
    agreement forged in the hope of a higher culture of democratic
    negotiation and waging peace through forged agreements. Those who have
    little opportunity to learn of Islam and perhaps even of Christianity
    and come to an appreciation of the history, culture and peoples of
    Mindanao, and those who have not yet had the opportunity to appreciate
    the provisions of the proposed Bangsamoro Basic Law nor have had the
    opportunity to learn of the spirit of the autonomy provisions in the
    1987 Constitution* must appreciate that the MILF is not calling for an
    Islamic State that uses centralized power to eliminate the non Muslim;
    it eschews the extremism of ISIS. The MILF is standing to a Bangsamoro
    which recognizes a diversity of religions, the Philippine Constitution,
    the rule of law, the wisdom of democracy, the vested rights of current
    property owners, the importance of a second and more difficult Jihad of
    education, the full demands of social justice. The social justice
    provisions of the BBL are arguably more specific than those of the 1987
    Philippine Constitution, calling explicitly in a predominantly Muslim
    culture for the participation and rights of women in all facets of the
    Bangsamoro; in a society currently plagued by entrenched clans and
    warlord, the rights and prerogatives of the poor and marginalized are
    emphasized. But the Bangsamoro as a political entity shall be a robust
    autonomy which redresses historical injustice done in the past to Moro
    identity, Moro self governance, and Moro integral development. It is an
    arrangement that recognizes that Manila cannot make the Moro into a
    Filipino. It never has, and never can. Only the Filipino Muslim can do
    that in autonomy and freedom. That is what the Bangsamoro is about.

    May the cry of the widow be heard, and the walk of the children for
    peace be blessed in the Bangsamoro. May the Lord still the storm, and
    “guide us into the way of peace” (Lk 1: 79).

  • judeanbob

    Muslims are hated for their stupidity and barbarity all over the world, not just in the Philippines.